Ferry-Costs

[Max Beermann]

Hello and happy new year,

maybe you can help me:

I have a routing with the use of a ferry - but I do not receive the costs for that ferry.
Where is my mistake (xroute / calculateAdvancedTour)?

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{
  "waypoints": [
    {
      "$type": "TourPointDesc",
      "linkType": "NEXT_SEGMENT",
      "fuzzyRadius": 0,
      "servicePeriod": 100,
      "useServicePeriodForRecreation": false,
      "completeServiceInIntervals": true,
      "openingIntervals": [],
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    },
    {
      "$type": "TourPointDesc",
      "linkType": "NEXT_SEGMENT",
      "fuzzyRadius": 0,
      "servicePeriod": 300,
      "useServicePeriodForRecreation": false,
      "completeServiceInIntervals": true,
      "openingIntervals": [],
      "coords": [
        {
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          }
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "tourOptions": {
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  },
  "routingOptions": [
    {
      "parameter": "EXCLUDE_COUNTRIES",
      "value": "41"
    },
    {
      "parameter": "OPTIMIZATION",
      "value": "80"
    },
    {
      "parameter": "AVOID_FERRIES",
      "value": "-66"
    },
    {
      "parameter": "SPEED_PROFILE",
      "value": "90,50,70,40,60,40,40,20,30,10,20,5,6,6,1,1"
    }
  ],
  "exceptionPaths": [
    {
      "extSegments": "",
      "street": "[Mülheimer Brücke]/[Leverkusener Brücke]/[Zoobrücke]/[Deutzer Brücke]",
      "binaryPathDesc": "",
      "relMalus": 2501,
      "absTimeMalus": 0
    }
  ],
  "details": {
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    "texts": false,
    "nodes": false,
    "binaryPathDesc": false,
    "polygon": true,
    "detailLevel": "STANDARD",
    "dynamicInfo": false,
    "segments": false,
    "segmentAttributes": false,
    "manoeuvreAttributes": false,
    "brunnelManoeuvres": false,
    "urbanManoeuvres": false,
    "manoeuvreGroups": false,
    "manoeuvreGroupRatio": 1,
    "tollManoeuvres": false,
    "boundingRectanglesC": 5,
    "boundingRectanglesOffset": 300,
    "totalRectangle": false
  },
  "countryInfoOptions": {
    "$type": "CountryInfoVehicleOptions",
    "detailedTollCosts": false,
    "allEuro": true,
    "tollDate": "2019-01-11T16:00:00+02:00",
    "calculatePartTollCosts": false,
    "options": [
      {
        "parameter": "TYPE",
        "value": "TRL"
      },
      {
        "parameter": "TOTAL_WEIGHT",
        "value": "35000"
      },
      {
        "parameter": "NUMBER_OF_AXLES",
        "value": "5"
      },
      {
        "parameter": "EMISSION_CLASS",
        "value": "EURO_6"
      }
    ]
  },
  "callerContext": {
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      {
        "key": "ResponseGeometry",
        "value": "PLAIN"
      },
      {
        "key": "CoordFormat",
        "value": "PTV_MERCATOR"
      },
      {
        "key": "Profile",
        "value": "truckfast"
      }
    ]
  }
}

Thanks in advance!
Max

[Bernd Welter]

Hello Max,

that's right: we do not return a fiscal value for the ferry. We also do not maintain timetables.
In the standard routing engine the ferry is just some kind of a teleporting segment that links two regions.

If you are interested in an engine that might open this portal you could have a look at xIntermodal.

Best regards,
Bernd

[Max Beermann]

Hello Bernd,

thanks for your fast reply.

Ah > good to know!:)

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Now I am a little bit confused.
This routing has a ferry-price (SPECIALCHARGEFERRY) .
So do you know why there is a ferry price?

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{
  "waypoints": [
    {
      "$type": "TourPointDesc",
      "linkType": "NEXT_SEGMENT",
      "fuzzyRadius": 0,
      "servicePeriod": 100,
      "useServicePeriodForRecreation": false,
      "completeServiceInIntervals": true,
      "openingIntervals": [],
      "coords": [
        {
          "$type": "Point",
          "point": {
            "$type": "PlainPoint",
            "x": 497984.25508,
            "y": 6778588.7387
          }
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "$type": "TourPointDesc",
      "linkType": "NEXT_SEGMENT",
      "fuzzyRadius": 0,
      "servicePeriod": 300,
      "useServicePeriodForRecreation": false,
      "completeServiceInIntervals": true,
      "openingIntervals": [],
      "coords": [
        {
          "$type": "Point",
          "point": {
            "$type": "PlainPoint",
            "x": -38457.877329,
            "y": 7113703.567
          }
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "tourOptions": {
    "restrictToSingleOperatingInterval": false
  },
  "routingOptions": [
    {
      "parameter": "EXCLUDE_COUNTRIES",
      "value": "41"
    },
    {
      "parameter": "OPTIMIZATION",
      "value": "80"
    },
    {
      "parameter": "AVOID_FERRIES",
      "value": "2500"
    },
    {
      "parameter": "SPEED_PROFILE",
      "value": "90,50,70,40,60,40,40,20,30,10,20,5,6,6,1,1"
    }
  ],
  "exceptionPaths": [
    {
      "extSegments": "",
      "street": "[Mülheimer Brücke]/[Leverkusener Brücke]/[Zoobrücke]/[Deutzer Brücke]",
      "binaryPathDesc": "",
      "relMalus": 2501,
      "absTimeMalus": 0
    }
  ],
  "details": {
    "manoeuvres": true,
    "texts": true,
    "nodes": true,
    "binaryPathDesc": false,
    "polygon": true,
    "detailLevel": "STANDARD",
    "dynamicInfo": false,
    "segments": true,
    "segmentAttributes": true,
    "manoeuvreAttributes": true,
    "brunnelManoeuvres": true,
    "urbanManoeuvres": true,
    "manoeuvreGroups": true,
    "manoeuvreGroupRatio": 1,
    "tollManoeuvres": false,
    "boundingRectanglesC": 5,
    "boundingRectanglesOffset": 300,
    "totalRectangle": false
  },
  "countryInfoOptions": {
    "$type": "CountryInfoVehicleOptions",
    "detailedTollCosts": true,
    "allEuro": true,
    "tollDate": "2019-01-11T16:00:00+02:00",
    "calculatePartTollCosts": true,
    "options": [
      {
        "parameter": "TYPE",
        "value": "TRL"
      },
      {
        "parameter": "TOTAL_WEIGHT",
        "value": "35000"
      },
      {
        "parameter": "NUMBER_OF_AXLES",
        "value": "5"
      },
      {
        "parameter": "EMISSION_CLASS",
        "value": "EURO_6"
      }
    ]
  },
  "callerContext": {
    "properties": [
      {
        "key": "ResponseGeometry",
        "value": "PLAIN"
      },
      {
        "key": "CoordFormat",
        "value": "PTV_MERCATOR"
      },
      {
        "key": "Profile",
        "value": "truckfast"
      }
    ]
  }
}

PS: Are there more categories, that should not be considered for price-calculations (Vignette, Intferry, etc.)?

Best regards and thanks in advance
Max

[Bernd Welter]

Of course you are right, I've overseen that - it is part of the toll output.

Honestly spoken I don't know how we determine the price and therefore I'll forward the topic to some data junkies inside PTV to get a proper description.

Best regards,
Bernd

[Max Beermann]

Hello Bernd,

thanks for your kind help!
Max

[Max Beermann]

Goord morning Bernd,

one more question concerning the ferries:

Example: F-Calais > GB-Dover.
RoutingOption / parameter="AVOID_FERRIES" / value="-99"

Is it possible to seperate the ferry-time from the road-time?

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  <ns3:CountryInfo iuCode="33" currency="EUR" countryCode="" additionalInfo="" scenarioId="3">
            <ns3:partRouteInfo distance="5733" time="937" cost="0" />
            <ns3:wrappedPerNCRouteInfo>
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="0" time="0" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="2223" time="160" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="0" time="0" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="1990" time="290" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="1364" time="407" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="156" time="80" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="0" time="0" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="0" time="0" cost="0" />

          <ns3:CountryInfo iuCode="44" currency="EUR" countryCode="" additionalInfo="" scenarioId="2">
            <ns3:partRouteInfo distance="2352" time="7229" cost="0" />
            <ns3:wrappedPerNCRouteInfo>
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="0" time="7020" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="2263" time="196" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="0" time="0" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="89" time="13" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="0" time="0" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="0" time="0" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="0" time="0" cost="0" />
              <ns3:RouteInfo distance="0" time="0" cost="0" /> 

Thanks again in advance!

Best regards
Max

[Bernd Welter]

Hello Max,

you can retrieve the time from the ferry segment:

List of segments. A ferry segment does not provide a segment length but period. This example is DOVER->CALAIS which is about 2 hours.

Best regards,
Bernd

[Max Beermann]

Good morning Bernd,

that was really quick > THANKS!
Max

[Max Beermann]

Hi Bernd,

(maybe) one (little) thing:

Where can I get segTime?
- Currently I only get accTime.


Or is "your" segTime = accTime (y) - acctime (x)?

Thanks in advance
Max

[Bernd Welter]

correct: it is derived by some other properties:

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if (SegmentIndex==0)
 segTime = segment[0].accTime;
else
 segTime = segment[segmentIndex].accTime - segment[segmentIndex-1].accTime;

[Max Beermann]

Hey Bernd,

thanks for your feedback!

Have a nice day
Max

[Bernd Welter]

Hello Max,

my colleages from the data department commented on the ferry tarifs:

We are in the middle of an update regarding the special charge. This will also have an impact on toll data.
There won't be updates for piggyback transport (trains). These piggyback relations aren't part of our toll data.

Best regards,
Bernd